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« on: December 10, 2007, 03:33:14 PM »

Hi guys,

I've got very little spare time at the mo unfortunately, so gotta keep this brief. Basically we're running out of disk space yet again and due to our current hosting situation it's not just a case of bunging another hard drive in. Any downtime you've noticed lately has been due to using up every single last byte of free space on the server. And obviously running this site free of charge with no income from it isn't good on my wallet!

So...post your ideas up for fundraising in here! We may need to set up a donation scheme to keep things ticking over if no good ideas come up/as well as...what do people think about that? (and honestly!!) You'd maybe get extra private message storage space or something for donating (again suggestions welcome). I did have plans for people who donate to get special access to new features...but I've just not had the time to add them and it's been on hold for the past 6 months.

McT's sugested selling mugs (...or jugs might be more appropriate in this case! Cheesy ) with pics from the gallery on them, and similar such items. I think a thread in here mentions a calendar. People interested in such items?

Plus, if anyone wants to advertise on mobMMS, private message me on this site or email mobmmsadvertising [at] mob453 (note; mob453 not mobmms!) [dot] com for details/discussion.

Well that's the situation, just thought I'd make a brief announcement about it and get some feedback Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2007, 01:25:20 PM »

doh Sad  thats not good news, i really thought that the option of people buying the pics was a good one but that does not seem to be working, i think that one of the probs is that most people that come to this site are using PC's so they dont really need to buy the pics, maybe selling mugs/or a calendar might work, but then again you might spend quite a lot of cash getting it off the ground and maybe only sell 4 Sad  i doubt very much that many people will donate cash is its not really in peoples nature too. I really dont have many idea's on how to help, one though is that people can see the thumbnail pic that is sent in, but if they wanna see the large pic then they have to pay a fee, maybe a monthly payment, or it could be "pay per pic" thats about the only way i think your gonna get people to part with there cash. other than that i guess it would be advertise. Sorry i'm not more help but i'm not very good at this kind of stuff aleco Sad x
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2007, 03:09:09 PM »

Could you just charge a small rate for people to sign up to the site? I mean you get tom, dick and harry turning up just to view pictures for free (or atleast view vids) now if you was too charge people to do it from now on then you'd get the hardcore people who are willing to view pics and vids because there uploading some themselfs!
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2007, 03:12:31 PM »

Other idea's of mine include just simply ask and beg for donations of £1 or something and secondly, charge people if they want to download a video or picture to there mobile...i dunno say £1.50 per vid and 50p per picture..??
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2007, 04:25:12 PM »

they do that all ready i3enno, no one really uses it though. Another thought if your pushed for room is to start deleting some of the older pics as a quick fix aleco, but i know its not a long term solution Sad
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2007, 05:47:49 PM »

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys Smiley

Another temporary solution might be for us to move from our long-time hosts to a cheaper or maybe US-based server that offers greater storage space. If anyone has any recommendations, stick them up!

The paying to view certain images is a good idea and was one of the ones on the To-Do list, but just don't have the time to implement it just yet Sad And as Miss-F said we've got the wap download thing on already (and even give a % back to the sender of the content each time it's downloaded!).

I recon moving to a cheaper dedicated server with more space is a good move, but will still need to address funding issues Sad
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2007, 10:57:45 PM »

Could you not make Video's a must be pay to download? I dunno perhaps if you want to view the video's of people then they have to subscribe to a weekly, monthly, yearly fee? No free-be's full stop?

Not being funny but you say there is no space for anymore to be uploaded, is anything sent in to be uploaded anymore? This could be the answer to my earlier question of is there anymore stuff...!! If so and there is more, one option would be too make it bigger but cheaper or the other option is to delete older material.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2007, 09:23:03 AM »

i spoke to mct breifly yesterday, without realising it had already been mentioned about paying to view...

Surely a quid or 2 for a yearly subscription would help..how many registered ( frequent ) members are there that would agree.

You could start it from a months time , give people the chance to join properly, payment through credit card or via paypal ( easily set up ) would also help with proof of age for the adult section.

Failing that advertising banners are the way forward.. a bit late in the year but a calander for next year ..run a vote on the top 12 pics male and female for next years ( 2009) calander...a his and hers edition

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 08:54:31 PM »

hey guys... love the site... well done.....

there' so many people that have registered but don't use it... you should put a time limit on per account so if someone stops using it, you can free up some space and also 'they' are safe in the knowledge that the information posted is distroyed.

another idea is running a competition amoungst the users for 'king and queen' pay a small mounthly fee, couple of quid.. (ie, a pint) and post your best and most creative pics.. put it to the vote and crown someone once a month!.. they then get a prize or something funny!....

or start a swinging party and get everyone to pay, hook up every six months and get it on!

just a thought.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2007, 05:28:49 PM »

Me and CC have been discussing this topic and here's a few suggestions....
1. Get rid of any guest posts that are over a certain age, maybe a year old.
2. Limit pic posts to a maximum of 6 per 24hrs, so that the front page cannot be swamped by new members only never to return.
3. Remove the galleries of any member that hasn't logged in for over a year, with prior notice by E mail .
4. Increase security on the adult frontpage. At the moment if you're not logged in the pics are pixellated however if you click on them you can still view each pic which doesn't encourage people to join and contribute to the site.
5. Advertise the forum and chat room more to encourage members to participate in the site more. Add competitions, such as pic of the month where the winning pic get's pride of place on the adult homepage and occasionally have a caption competition with a minimal entry fee for the chance to win a prize.
6. Make the adults section for full members only, possibly with a few free weeks for new members then a small charge one off charge for those who want to stay.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2007, 07:17:51 PM »

all good ideas mob Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2007, 02:05:32 AM »

Errrr.... Change of user ID as when McT in loged into this site everything is writen with invisable ink! Sad

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1. Get rid of any guest posts that are over a certain age, maybe a year old.

3. Remove the galleries of any member that hasn't logged in for over a year, with prior notice by E mail .

5. Advertise the forum and chat room more to encourage members to participate in the site more. Add competitions, such as pic of the month where the winning pic get's pride of place on the adult homepage and occasionally have a caption competition with a minimal entry fee for the chance to win a prize.

6. Make the adults section for full members only

1. agrees.

3. agrees, Delete all members that have not logged in for the past 12 months
*as you can see most members puts explanation marks before the user ID just to get to the top and advertise websites.*
3.1 also delete guest pic's and videos however, aleco do let me know so you can add the other's to McT's album

5. disagrees with advertising as it costs more money to do so however, on any website you go to try and slip in mobmms.com as much as you can in one single line lol.
5.1 agrees, competitions are very good! say £1 per entry and the winner gets a prize which can be sent via email or delivered whichever they prefer.

6. Buy a mug and pick a picture from mobMMS.com to be printed on it £8.99 plus £1 postage
all personal details will only be given to one third party during the payment's and will then be discarded.
We don't care if your famous i.e actor, footballer, singer your name can be changed to MR and Mrs T which you can request when paying.

7. Adult section, non-member! No freeview's.
7.1 Register and a limit of 3-10 freeview's.
7.2 if the person likes the site they can pay per month, 6month or for a full year, which can be talked about on a later date.

8. and finally you can donate towards mobMMS.com here:
http://www.mob453.com/nokia/
Where you see unit price on the top right! you can put any x amount there,
then click update totals

every penny is very welcome and may I take this time to say thank you! from Mobmm.com and Mob453.com see it's easy to advertise lol Wink

N.b Happy Chirstmas and have a humping new year everybody.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2007, 11:41:12 AM »

So what's the latest on this subject guys? Just to put things into perspective for eveyone, can you tell us what it actually costs to run this site?
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2007, 05:40:30 PM »

I started a reply for this but then Firefox crashed and I couldn't be bothered to retype it lol!

Ok, here we go:

Could you not make Video's a must be pay to download? I dunno perhaps if you want to view the video's of people then they have to subscribe to a weekly, monthly, yearly fee? No free-be's full stop?

Not being funny but you say there is no space for anymore to be uploaded, is anything sent in to be uploaded anymore? This could be the answer to my earlier question of is there anymore stuff...!! If so and there is more, one option would be too make it bigger but cheaper or the other option is to delete older material.
We have it pay per download on the WAP site, just not that many use it yet. We were thinking of allowing users to set their videos to being viewable by either people who subscribe or people who pay to access their vids (not all vids, just if the person who uploads it wants it that way, as they get a %age of any fees as payment). I've been trying to avoid this as much as poss to try and encourage new visitors and users to the site if all content is free, but then if there's no site lol...

Stuff is still being uploaded, I'm just having to delete some stuff from other places I'd rather not have had to. The server is considerably less stable at the moment though, and I've noticed certain important scripts are getting overwritten which cause the site to die (well at least I presume this isn't due to hackers!).

I think the solution to the space problem is to shift servers to somewhere in the US. It'll mean we don't show up in google.co.uk searches quite so well, but hopefully result in nearly half the cost of server. Altho as we need more space we would probably end up spending the same but with larger hard drives so not need to worry for quite some time. Again, anyone who can recommend hosts which allow adult content, just let me know.

So the main problem now is how to cover the costs - been looking at adverts which might help if people click them. Don't want anything too tacky though (anyone who used to use the "other", currently dead mobile pic site will know what I mean!! Just maybe some text links.

i spoke to mct breifly yesterday, without realising it had already been mentioned about paying to view...

Surely a quid or 2 for a yearly subscription would help..how many registered ( frequent ) members are there that would agree.

You could start it from a months time , give people the chance to join properly, payment through credit card or via paypal ( easily set up ) would also help with proof of age for the adult section.

Failing that advertising banners are the way forward.. a bit late in the year but a calander for next year ..run a vote on the top 12 pics male and female for next years ( 2009) calander...a his and hers edition

dave

yup that's a good idea, it's just whether people will actually sign up even if it's something trivial like 1p it'd put people off. If everyone who visited in a single day (according to unique visitor stats at least) donated a pound just £2 once, we'd be covered for the year Smiley I personally think this'd be the best option as would mean, as you say, adults could actually be verified, meaning the site stays a bit better in terms of stopping those who shouldn't be viewing adult content away from it. And could help get rid of any spam posters of ungenuine content, to help keep mobMMS what it is at heart. I'd also give benefits to donors - such as increased inbox space or access to additional features etc.

hey guys... love the site... well done.....

there' so many people that have registered but don't use it... you should put a time limit on per account so if someone stops using it, you can free up some space and also 'they' are safe in the knowledge that the information posted is distroyed.

another idea is running a competition amoungst the users for 'king and queen' pay a small mounthly fee, couple of quid.. (ie, a pint) and post your best and most creative pics.. put it to the vote and crown someone once a month!.. they then get a prize or something funny!....

or start a swinging party and get everyone to pay, hook up every six months and get it on!

just a thought.
I like the idea of a competition, just we can't really offer anything except maybe eternal glory in a special dedicated section of the site or something! Cheesy Maybe I could see if I could get some kind of sponsorship deal going on (i dunno, Ann Summers for example, you win some sexy underwear (on the provision it'd modelled afterwards lol Wink )) which would be good.

A mobMMS get together (literally) party could be a good thing, but require a fair bit of time and organisation, both of which I lack lol! An informal one would be a good thing to do in the mean time maybe, I could go around with one of those donation buckets haha! :lol:

Me and CC have been discussing this topic and here's a few suggestions....
1. Get rid of any guest posts that are over a certain age, maybe a year old.
2. Limit pic posts to a maximum of 6 per 24hrs, so that the front page cannot be swamped by new members only never to return.
3. Remove the galleries of any member that hasn't logged in for over a year, with prior notice by E mail .
4. Increase security on the adult frontpage. At the moment if you're not logged in the pics are pixellated however if you click on them you can still view each pic which doesn't encourage people to join and contribute to the site.
5. Advertise the forum and chat room more to encourage members to participate in the site more. Add competitions, such as pic of the month where the winning pic get's pride of place on the adult homepage and occasionally have a caption competition with a minimal entry fee for the chance to win a prize.
6. Make the adults section for full members only, possibly with a few free weeks for new members then a small charge one off charge for those who want to stay.
Mobs & CC
2. I've been meaning to do this for aggges, as quite often new members will upload every photo in their collection then never post again. I put a very very very basic semi-restriction on but it's so easy to get around it's barely worth mentioning it exists. Again, this is just due to lack of time currently I've been unable to implement the proper one Sad
4. Been meaning to do this for ages too, but this is just lazyness as I already got all the code in place lol. My original fear was that Google would stop picking up the pics so less people would find us thru the search engine. However, I've already ruined any chance of this happening by implementing a basic way to stop people saving the images quite so easily, so may as well go do this properly now!
5. Caption contest is a good idea, hadn't thought of that! We've been thinking about a winning pic each month but just not got round to it (we have a seriously long To-Do list in the moderator section - spans several pages currently!!!). I guess we could try and make it not too complicated by just counting the number of votes per month for each pic. Or views per month. Or maybe ratio of votes to views. Or make it simpler still by just having suggestions each month in this forum, put all the nominations in a poll and winner gets their pic in the gallery.
I've added a list of recent forum posts to some pages of the site (couldn't do it on all without spending more time due to conflicts of certain things). So hopefully that'll help make the forum more noticable. Obviously paid advertising we can't do at the mo but I don't think that's what you meant anyway?
6. Good idea as well. I'm not sure we could do a one off fee depending on costs and number of users that sign up, but obviously we'd make it as small as poss if we had to.



Right, think that's all the main points addressed! Costs - It's something like £150-£200 per month for the server, then we've got the cost of the WAP billing which is £10 a month from one provider, and £20 from another (special rate currently though, it'd be a shocking £299 per month if not!!). Plus it'd be nice to be able to buy the moderators a pint one every so often for their work lol.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2007, 06:45:47 PM »

Maybe getting a mobile operator on board would be a possibility, I mean, imagine mobmms having an O2 banner or Vodafone banner for people to click on, surely that would generate some kind of income for you. However i'm sure it would depend on set up costs. It's an interesting one for sure. I think some of the ideas on here are pretty good tho, i mean, how many other sites still keep people's pics and vids on their servers for so long? Not many would be my guess, if it means people losing them they should download the original content before it's deleted, maybe if you send a generic email to all members to say any posts older than 12 months will be deleted in order to create space for new posts, so if you want them, recover them, or they will be lost forever. Then people have the choice don't they? If i come up with anything i'll post it on here,  but at the moment that's all i've got. Sorry.
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